I would like a debate on the forum with John Guy about the period 7th August 1485AD to 22nd August 1485AD and popular history about the facts leading up to the battle on 22nd August 1485AD.
I really think that there wasn't time for all the romantic theories of conspiracies against Richard III and an examination of the logistics would prove my point.
I look forward to hearing from you,
Best regards
owbryn

Hi JG
I have written a web site on my research into Henry VII circa 1469AD to 1485AD:
Harri Tudur - Welsh Warrior to Henry VII - King of England and Wales:
www.tudor.vc/tudor/harritudur.html
Best regards
owbryn

Hi
Just a short note to say that I have updated my web page:
tudor.vc/tudor/harritudur.html
regards
owbryn

Perhaps the most interesting recent reassessment is Michael K. Jones, 'Bosworth 1485: The Psychology of a Battle' (Tempus/Arcadia, 2002). Whether he is right or not, he makes you think.

Hi John
I have not read the book but I have read this article on the R3 web site: www.r3.org/bosworth/texts/jones.html
I do agree that the battle took place at Atherstone/Merevale but I do not agree with most other points made in the article.
I believe that R3 acted in much haste when he found out that HT was already in Shrewsbury. R3 would have realised that HT was heading for London (where he was assured of additional support) and would have sent for re-infrcements from the Dukes of Norfolk and Northumberland. His immediate move would be to block the bridge over the River Anker at Mancetter and wait for his re-inforcements to arrive. HT would have skirted around to look for another route over the river and would have move South and east of the now Merevale Hall but would have been stopped by the marsh. That is the reason why he had the sun on his back. If the owner of Merevale Hall would allow metal detectors on his property I'm sure that I will be proved right.
owbryn

Hi John
Referring to Michael Jones' article:
Henry Tudor’s victory set the seal on a change of dynasty and was soon portrayed as God’s endorsement of a rightful cause. The tale we know is one told and re-told by the Tudor victors. This sets the scene of where he is coming from, obviously a R3 sympathiser. Henry VII spin, if any, died with Henry VII. His son distanced himself from his father's Welsh past and highlighted his York connections through his mother.
The Tudor court historian Polydore Vergil Polydore wrote his Anglica Historica three years after the death of Henry VII and was never in the employ of the Tudor's Henry VII or VIII, he was an Italian monk.
There is one fascinating detail which makes no sense in the tradtional location – the position of the sun. It has always been noted, but set aside on the assumption that those who recorded it must simply have made a mistake. The Tudor court historian Polydore Vergil spoke to those who had fought in Tudor’s army. He gleaned from them a crucial piece of information, that Tudor’s captains undertook a flanking manoeuvre to gain the advantage of the strong August morning sun directly in their opponents’ eyes. They must therefore have been facing west or northwest. This is quite correct but the flanking movement was to the South and South East because Richard would have blocked the bridge over the River Anker and taken his position on the Hill (Merevale Hall) while HT moved (flanked) to the south and east to find another route south. By the time they reached the marsh R3 would have been to their north on Merevale Hill.
Only one key factor seems to work against such a re-location of this famous battle – the known burial site of some of the slain at Dadlington, a mile or so south of Ambion Hill. I suspect you will find many more dead buried at the old abbey on Merevale Hall estate than that at Daddlington. The ones at Daddlington were of the R3 troops as they were retreating from the River Anker northwards being slain by the Welsh warriors taking advantage of the defeat of the English and R3. Probably the troops of the Stanley brothers (mainly Welsh troops) to try to get into Henry's good books for remaining out of the conflict.
Luigie